YOUNG PEOPLE FUCKING **

YOUNG PEOPLE FUCKING is a Canadian comedy with a rather provocative title.

Its subject matter concerns precisely what you would imagine it to be. But it is, unfortunately, all tease and no follow through.

There is plenty of nudity and actors simulating various kinds of delight. But there is absolutely nothing groundbreaking about this picture aside from the title. We’ve seen all of this a million times before (and it’s been done in a far superior manner elsewhere).

Aside from one or two glaring exceptions, we’ve all indulged in this behaviour many times over as well. If you haven’t, then you probably should be getting out a little more.

It’s also not a bit sexy. But the things that make you hot or get you going with a rush are all very personal and subjective. It’s like humour. You either find it funny or you don’t – and the next person may not find it amusing at all.

For example…

In Basic Instinct, Sharon Stone and Michael Douglas were naked a lot and rolled around all over the place. For a mainstream, R rated film, that’s about as explicit as you can get. It was absolutely terrible…except for Sharon’s performance. She was sexy. But the movie was not.

BODY HEAT, THE UNBEARABLE LIGHTNESS OF BEING, OUT OF SIGHT, ROMEO IS BLEEDING, LAUREL CANYON, CHICAGO, GILDA, DUEL IN THE SUN, FLIRTING and STORMY MONDAY are all gloriously sexy.

MICHELLE PFEIFFER singing on the piano in that great red dress in THE FABULOUS BAKER BOYS is sexy. When she and JEFF BRIDGES get together later in the hotel ballroom (aptly named in this particular instance) that’s fabulous. GRACE KELLY’S memorable entrance in REAR WINDOW is arrestingly hot.

But YOUNG PEOPLE FUCKING isn’t…

The film concentrates on four pairs of people. The fifth pair involves two people and a voyeuristic boyfriend. It follows them through the beginning of their particular liaison right through until the end. You’re there basically at the beginning of each encounter until the predictable cool down.

So, to cut to the chase, all of these people do have sex. But that doesn’t make the movie more interesting. The only thing that rings true is that (just as in real life) the results aren’t necessarily representative of what their expectations were.

MATT (AARON ABRAMS) and KRIS (CARLY POPE) are THE FRIENDS. Long time buddies since they were in grade school, they’re currently pining over long lost relationships that didn’t turn out so well. But Kris has an idea. What’s the point of all this depression and where’s it getting them? Why not have a quick and dirty interlude just to get their rocks off? Maybe it would shake those blues away.

THE EXES are MIA (SONJA BENNETT) and ERIC (JOSH COOKE). Though they haven’t been apart very long, Eric has all ready been out with a number of women. When he and Mia agree to spend an evening together, sparks start flying all over again. A strong attraction is still evident and they end up back at her place. They have no intention of reconciling. But what would be the harm in a casual hookup? No one’s going to get hurt.

ANDREW (JOSH DEAN) and ABBY (KRISTIN BUNCH) are THE COUPLE. They’re only 26 but they’ve all ready been married for years. Abby wants it. It’s Andrew’s birthday but he claims he’s too tired. This leads to a heated conversation where they both get extremely upset. It’s astoundingly clear that they’re bored sexually. They haven’t done it in three weeks. So Abby suggests a little experimentation.

THE FIRST DATE consists of KEN (CALLUM BLUE) and JAMIE (DIORA BAIRD). Ken is a gorgeous, charming Brit in his early 30s. He’s a bit of a player. In fact, he’s slept with every single woman in his office.

That’s where he met Jamie. She’s equally striking, but nearly ten years younger and rather naive. You can sense a mild tug of war in Ken as he ends up in Jamie’s apartment at the end of the night. He tells her that he genuinely likes her. It’s not just that she’s absolutely stunning. There does appear to be a modicum of sincerity on his part. He says he’ll go as slowly as she wants to. He’ll even leave if she’s uncomfortable and see her another night.

But will Ken be able to resist slipping into his old ways? Or is Jamie not exactly for real either?

Finally, GORD (ENNIS ESMER) and DAVE (PETER OLDRING) are THE ROOMMATES. Gord wants Dave to have sex with his attractive girlfriend INEZ (NATALIE LISINSKA) while he watches.

These scenarios are all very familiar. (Except for the roommate segment, of course.) Most people will have experienced some of them (possibly over and over again) in their particular lifetimes. But despite the cliche ridden writing (and the direction is no better) there are a few things that do ring true on occasion. Though the roommate scenario has likely happened in reality more than a few times it comes off as entirely unbelievable.

The editing is a real problem and it takes some getting used to. You don’t get one whole segment and then move on to the next one. They’re all intercut and you keep moving from one to the other in a rather jarring fashion.

This probably looked like an exceedingly clever idea on paper and it may very well have been. But the screenplay needs a lot more work. The evidence is in the execution. It just lays there lifeless.

The acting is the only thing that’s good about this picture. All of the sections are well done in that respect except for the roommates, which falters aimlessly.

If there’s any justice CALLUM BLUE should be a big star. He’s like a combination of JUDE LAW and JEREMY IRONS. He’s appeared on GREY’S ANATOMY and THE TUDORS. But he’s probably best known for playing MASON on Showtime’s DEAD LIKE ME.

CARLY POPE is a magnificent, adorable young actor. She was on the television series POPULAR and she’s also been on 24. DIORA BAIRD has the presence and the looks of a silver screen goddess. SONJA BENNETT has a strong charisma that hooks you in and makes her work fresh and relatable.

Aside from those gifted individuals that did the best they could with what they were given, it was interesting how it showed that people lie to get their needs met. Often even to themselves.

Let’s face it. Unless you’re a whore, an idiot or you spend the majority of your days strung out on mind altering substances, sex is not that simple. It should be.

But it never is.

Though we may not want to admit it, emotions are almost always ever present. Real love may not necessarily be there (and doesn’t have to be) but emotionally healthy people want to be close to someone and be cared for. People learn to play down their true feelings or to extract them from the equation. Even if it’s because they’re merely trying to avoid hurt, that almost never works.

You may be driven by an immense physical desire for someone (and we’ve all been there) but the deeper stuff is always lurking somewhere in the background. Trying to eliminate it won’t ever be successful. Sex is a bonding process. It is merely the physical manifestation of the other needs that you have. Any student of psychology will tell you that.

But you still have to walk the high wire. Believing that because you care about someone and the sex is great is an indication that you’ll be together forever is as blatantly stupid as having one nighters. Everything has a shelf life and when it’s over, it’s gone…

The movie just runs out of steam in the end. Like a besotted lover that softly whispers sweet nothings in your ear and promises you the most exquisite pleasures – only to disappoint you mercilessly in the light of day – YOUNG PEOPLE FUCKING isn’t satisfying in the least and is an experience that you can pass by without regret.

Trust me. There’s better out there…

18 Responses to “YOUNG PEOPLE FUCKING **”

  1. Despite the many truly sexy movies you mention above, most movies seem to get it wrong, and this goes double for movies that are ostensibly ABOUT sex.

    A movie called Young People Fucking had better deliver in the bedroom and if it doesn’t, count me out.

  2. Craig, from your mouth to God’s ear, honey…

    This is just a mass of cliches. Right down the middle.

    I mean…

    ************SPOILERS************

    You just know that the player is going to get played, that the friends really are in love with each other (have been for centuries) and they’re just afraid to admit it, that the exes still care etc. The married people have a little surprise going for them but the voyeurism thing is just plain stupid. That’s not a moral judgment call on my part. It’s simply that, if they were willing to go that far in that section, then it really had to work – and it didn’t.

    ************END SPOILERS*********

    I was trying NOT to dump all over it but it was a bloody waste of time. You know, I said that it wasn’t good and I didn’t feel that it was sexy. Now some people could conceivably see it and disagree with me.

    That’s why I decided to state some examples so that readers could decide for themselves. I mean, what’s hot for one girl won’t work for another.

    For example: I was talking to a very attractive guy at a party once and I could have been interested. He was intelligent and I thought we might’ve had some stuff in common. So he asked me what I thought the sexiest movie of all time was and I said BODY HEAT. He thought it was OK but he wasn’t that impressed. So I asked him and you know what he said?!!

    Last Tango In Paris…

    That’s one of the worst films I have EVER seen in my entire life. Um…the butter scene? Know what I’m saying? I was completely turned off. I talked to him for a few more minutes but every time a subject came up he had a wildly different view of the ideal than I did.

    I don’t think you can sleep with someone if you can’t even agree on what a sexy movie is or what great sex IS in a film. I’m thinking that your ideas about what’s fabulous are not going to converge in the bedroom IN REALITY either.

    So what’s the point?

    I think they chose a very provocative title to get people into the theatre because there’s not much to it.

    Craig, you’d be FAR better off to rent or buy some of the other films I talked about in my review. Watch them if you own them. Or even pick up some fried chicken, make some margaritas and watch something hot and dirty on pay per view.

    Don’t waste your precious time with Young People Fucking.

    It’s a losing game, sweetheart…

  3. would ‘bored young people f**king’ had been a better movie ?? *ha ha*

    wait..wait….

    ‘young people f**king’/ the real young@heart’. i bet a similiar review quote is out there somewhere. *ha ha*

    ok m. as you can uh guess ms m. uh the sex scenes i like are seemingly the opposite of the ‘hot sex’/’sexy’ slant everyone goes for…guess i like ‘anti’ erotic sex scenes or scenes that funny/different. i don’t know…and yep as usual i guess it’s just me. but that’s me… ha ha..

    anyway i like sex scene in atom egoyan’s ‘the adjuster’/when they have sex and start talking about insurance claims. that was so funny. maybe a bit of satire is happening here/you know all that lame old talk actors/directos used to do about how they wouldn’t do a sex scene unless it ‘advanced’ the plot. well here you go… ๐Ÿ˜‰
    and this scene has brilliant acting too !!! ๐Ÿ™‚

    ok maybe there is a bit of ‘sexy’ slant in the scene/but really i think 95%(or choose any random high number) of people aren’t gonna think this scene is ‘sexy’ or good. but i love it.

    i also rather like the sex scene that’s starts almodรณvar’s ‘matador’.

    yeah m. i’m a guy and i love that scene ‘that’s hot’. ha ha. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    the way things shifted between the bull fighting training bits/and the hotel sex was funny/funny/smile inducing and surprising!

    and yeah i was even more than ok with how the scene ended too. opps another blow to my non existant guy cred. yeah….

    and earlier/way back whenever on your page i tried to explain why i thought the sex scene in ‘paranoid park ‘ was cool.

    really i can’t explain it i guess/but i tried as usual it’s moments like this where i wish the pro/semi pro credits would make things clearer for me. put nope no review of ‘paranoid park’ mentions this scene.(and i think it would be safe to talk about since there isn’t nudity etc…)

    as it is now i feel i trying to tell myself something i don’t even know myself…

    maybe if critics would stop masturbating to their copy of ‘no country’ they could be of help to me… ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    i don’t know m. i also usually really dislike what people consider ‘sexy’ in music sonics/singing/and lyrics too. really i don’t need to hear another ‘sexy’ song. and suspect ‘sexy’ is letting a lot of crap music off the hook….

    or maybe i’m just underwhelmed. now what’s sexy about that ???

    really m. whatever this says about me. maybe gadzillions/but i don’t care.

    i tend to like scenes that are funny/suprising/different and yep even boring. over ‘hot sex’ scenes…

    there’s likely been 1000’s of attempts at ‘hot sex’. but who would have predicted a scene like the one in the ‘adjuster’ ??? no one… ????

    maybe ‘hot sex’ doesn’t translate well to the screen. and yeah m. i don’t really consider myself a visual person. (uh i’m not sure what sort of person i am. ha ha)

    maybe this stuff doesn’t work for because i’m a sexless wimp.

    maybe because the ‘hot sex’ stuff is in films i don’t give a damn about. maybe these scenes bore me the same way ‘sexy’ music does….

    so i guess make mine the ‘non’ sexy/sex scene.

  4. Uh…more like boring young people fucking, glim.

    To be perfectly honest, it was a comedy and you really don’t see much. I think, if I can even recall back that far (*yawns and stretches like a blonde, green eyed Siamese*) that two of the women had bras on when they had sex and you only had a REALLY GOOD LOOK at one guy’s ass in the roommate section. So you actually didn’t see a whole hell of a lot. It was all a huge buildup for nothing. Big whoop, as they say.

    So I really don’t know if the filmmakers realistically wanted to make it that hot. I think that they used a deliberately provocative title to get people into the theatre. Sure, it’s more explicit than your average network TV show. But I think I’ve seen stuff on NIP/TUCK that was a hell of a lot wilder.

    Actually, I did hear about the sex scene in The Adjuster. Yeah, talk about advancement of the plot. Hee hee. But as much as I admire some of Atom Egoyan’s stuff, he is defiantly out of the mainstream. He wants to make films in his own unique voice. More power to him, I say.

    glim, you’re entitled to like whatever you want to. That’s fine by me – and you’re NOT a sexless wimp.

    Sometimes hot sex does NOT translate to the screen easily or well. You need a director that has a fair amount of control while he’s/she’s working on it (just like in real life sex, as a matter of fact) and a crackling good editor. They both have to know what they’re doing. Only then can they come up with a satisfactory…um, product.

    maybe if critics could stop masturbating to their copy of no country they could be of help to me.

    Ha ha ha ha hah…As someone who thought that NCFOM was barely a three star film and should never have been nominated for Best Picture (never mind won) I salute you, glim. That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in a while.

    Thank you so much for that, honey babe…

  5. glimmer Says:

    m. here’s the scene from ‘the adjuster’

    funnier within the context of the movie.but i guess it’s works ok as a stand alone too. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    hope there isn’t problems with this. yeah i’m the one without pc speakers….(and i may have messed the a/r up slightly. but for this clip/guess that doesn’t matter)

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8659552906398962306&hl=en

  6. glimmer Says:

    ‘I donโ€™t think you can sleep with someone if you canโ€™t even agree on what a sexy movie is or what great sex IS in a film. Iโ€™m thinking that your ideas about whatโ€™s fabulous are not going to converge in the bedroom IN REALITY either.’

    m. a very awesome/interesting quote. and i can see this making a lot of sense being a preference…

    i’m curious was the guy you had difference with on this subject and others. were the difference strong enough to also knock him off the friendship path ????

    anyway…and your quote…. uh….

    i don’t think this matters as much to ‘the guys’ ????? (someone male/female want give your slant on that.please…)

    i mean when i see the ‘hot’ female lists. it’s so often filled with females ‘the guys’ don’t seem to like for *any reason other* than whichever female being ‘traditioanlly or genericly ‘hot’

    (ok i can a see a couple sneaking in because of this.but it seems gadizillions of ‘the guys’ lists fit the describation i gave exclusively/yuck)

    so hmm m. i’m gonna say ‘the guys’ aren’t as ‘picky’ on this issue as issue as you are.

    i thinking unless they have some ‘very specfic’ sexual needs (but ‘specific sexual ‘needs’ would kick them out of ‘the guys status. so that’s not them…) i doubt they care if their best film sex scenes mesh with the female(s) ???

    hmm ok m. when you discovred the guys’ sexiest movie it was a turn off. but do you think he did the mental accounting/ taking points from you/because your choice of ‘sexy’ movie didn’t mesh/match much with his ??????

  7. All right. It’s early here on the west coast and I don’t have much time. But I’m going to be as frank about this as possible without hurting or upsetting anybody.

    OK, glimster sweetheart…

    Friendship with men is not really a huge priority for me. I mean, I have male friends now (both ON the net and OFF the net – hi, guys – you know who you are) and I adore those boys a great deal. BUT some of them are romantic prospects – ON the net and OFF the net. The ones that I haven’t met yet I can’t say for sure. But I have an enormous affection for them and they will always be in my life regardless. I mean, as long as they choose to be.

    Seeing as we had to be friends out of necessity (we don’t live in the same area so we can’t say if there’s real romantic potential or not) then those relationships have value to me.

    Same as the guys off the net that I know. I mean, I ALWAYS have guys around that are romantic prospects. Regardless of whether I’m involved with someone or not. Boys are always seeking me out and making me think. That’s not to say that I go out with everyone I know. I don’t generally date more than three people seriously over the course of a year. But I will make exceptions.

    So not to sound cold or anything. But friendship with men is not a real big priority for me. AT ALL. If it happens, then I cherish those friendships and nurture them. I’m very honourable. But my temperature runs more than a little high. I’m really intense.

    I’m always on the lookout for someone to break furniture with. If it lasts, great. If it’s only for a set period of time, that’s fine too. But my relationships tend to go for three to six months generally. I’m very pragmatic. I don’t fool around. When I want something, I’ll be sure to ask.

    glim, here are the straight goods. From me to you. Sex, in its most pure form (when you strip all the romance away etc.), is about two people giving to each other – making each other happy. How in the hell is a guy who digs a movie about anonymous sex and sodomy ever going to meet my needs? He was probably a perv. He may not have been. But if that was his idea of the sexiest movie ever, COME ON…

    As for the other, he would have given his right arm to breathe the bloody air I breathe. If I had gone home with him (NOT that I would have), he would have been the happiest man on earth for the rest of his natural life. But then I never would’ve been able to get rid of him.

    You haven’t seen me. OBVIOUSLY. I’ve turned a number of heads in my day. Or so they tell me.

    Case closed….

  8. ah, she replies ! ๐Ÿ™‚

    anyway i hope you meet a cool guy in the 2008 with some mark levinson like traits. you know the dope rhymes that i kick…. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    m. you haven’t seen me. obviously.

    “you’ll surely laugh when you see this photograph/it’s not from that day/i threw all those away/it’s just some boy/ probably dressed in corduroy”

    *ha ha ha*

    takes a bow…. ๐Ÿ™‚

  9. glimmer Says:

    nip/tuck…nip/tuck….

    didn’t nip/tuck…have that brown bag scene??? how about that for wild ????

  10. ‘How in the hell is a guy who digs a movie about anonymous sex and sodomy ever going to meet my needs?’

    *ha ha ha*

    ok i’m making a mental note that if talking to a female/never mention *last tango*

    but i sort of want to mention it/because when i fail/ i want fail completely.

    anyway m. it could have been worse (from your view) what if he had mentioned a japanese animation movie! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  11. Well, well, well, glimster…

    I didn’t mean to get all posh, glam and medieval on you. But I just had to give you the straight skinny on that particular situation. As it were.

    Didn’t want to come off too strong. But it needed to be said. BADLY.

    I’m glad that you didn’t take it the wrong way. You have always been a sweetie and your idiosyncratic insight makes a major contribution here.

    Thank you for being so wonderful.

    I actually just split up with someone the last little while. He’s a very lovely guy. I have NOTHING bad to say about him. It wasn’t working out and that was glaringly obvious to us both.

    I’m really close to one of my other exes as well. There’s no reconcilation in sight, though.

    But relationships are always fraught with peril. Without including either gentleman in the mix (as it would NOT be fair to talk about them), I just want to get away from a real common dynamic I keep running into.

    It’s easy to watch things falter when you have certain needs and expectations that have to be fulfilled – in the short term or in the long. I’m rather tired of these intense roller coaster rides too.

    I’d just like to find someone that thinks that I’m utterly fascinating, that will be gentle, sweet, completely devoted and not give me constant hassles. Worship and adore me – and, um…live up to his end of the bargain.

    I wonder if there’s anyone out there like that. Hmmmm…

    glim, you can’t go by me. I’m a rather unusual girl by anyone’s standards. I can only speak for myself in this regard.

    Are there women who dig anonymous sex and sodomy? (Whether it’s practised on them or someone else?) I guarantee you there must be some. Though I’d wager they’re definitely in the minority. I DO NOT wish to malign any women who enjoy Last Tango.

    But you do understand that if you meet a woman like that (with a predilection for sodomy and anonymity) that she’s going to be an adventurer and OUT THERE. AT THE VERY LEAST. Right, glim?

    Best to work up to it, honey babe. Ask her what she thinks of the movie (and get her precise opinion on it) before you launch into a big spiel.

    There’s no need to fail. But if she seems kind of scary there are ways to make a clean getaway quickly.

    Trust me, glimmy. I would not steer you wrong…

  12. glimmer Says:

    m. i haven’t seen ‘last tango’ nor the sex scene refed.

    but i doesn’t really matter/what scene i would ref the results would be the same….

    i can’t imagine(and i’m not joking, i really can’t realistically imagine it) having a serious discussion about movie ‘hot’ sex scenes/sexy movies….especially one serious enough where my saying the ‘wrong’ answer docks me ‘cool’ points/ or helps ruin a ‘chance’ i had. ha ha…

    if i was in this uh imaginary conversation i could mention i was in this thread about how i don’t care for ‘sexy’ scenes….

    uh wait that would be me being myself. and like that’s *ever* been helpful in this area. oh no…so scratch that…

    hmm i could mention some movie/scene that well acknowleged as being ‘hot’/sexy…like let’s say ‘body heat’

    it would (from me) just read as fake/ forced/bandwagonism and unbelievable. i may as well try to convince a female that i’m 7 ft tall. yeah my combination of ‘unsexyness’ and physical akwardness wouldn’t let an ‘accepted’ answer go over pretty well. ha ha…

    hmm with my uh persona/personality i’d probably have to go the funny/weird/non answer/answer of just ‘filling’ the space route (if i’m gonna give an answer aside from my not giving a damn about what’s mostly viewed as ‘sexy’. *yawn* )

    so yep even if were to mention the supposedly dreaded/horrible ‘last tango’ scene (which i haven’t seen) it wouldnt hurt me at all. it would (from me) just seem weird/strange/funny/pathetic/lame hence forth seen as more ‘thruthful’ answer from me than going the ‘sexy’ route.

    and m. you really added to the comedy bridage (not meant as an insult towards you) when you mention females that enjoy anonymous sex.

    do more adjusted/sexually active people *not* get this.

    when you hear of females that are supposedly into anonymous sex or that refed as ‘easier’. do you ever hear of them having sex with a girl repellent geek/loser kids ?????

    *no* and the answer again is….. ‘one more time’… *no*

    so yeah m. maybe a female into anonymous sex ‘maybe that sheโ€™s going to be an adventurer and OUT THERE’

    but not out there enough to have sex with a loser. i mean come on…*ha ha ha*

    and it wouldn’t even matter if losers were interested or not. we’re out stripped/out shone from the start. hmmm…

    but anyway if i’m asked about the sex scene thing i should just enter full i don’t care mood and that should be my anwser

    that scene that starts ‘before the devil knows you’re dead’

    you know i don’t think females really wanted to see psh in action. and they don’t want to have sex with me. making this reply perfect… ๐Ÿ˜‰

    they way the sex scene in almodovar’s ‘matador’ ends. you know the females kills the guy and then continues to uh…pleasure herself….

    if a female has sex with me. she can can me. thanks…

    and lastly i should mention that movie that had jeremy irons. a female critic mentions that female lead was supposed to be ‘obsessed’ with jeremy. but since jeremy orgasmed so quickly. what female could be obessed with that ??

    now that’s comedy. and that’s todays top 3. ๐Ÿ™‚

    now watch my cool points grow… ๐Ÿ˜‰

    m. you mentioned uh ‘clothes’ trust me. i’d be the same loser even if i knew or cared anything about clothes.

    but don’t take what i say too seriously because i’ve more than given up.

    ‘and i don’t care to rhyme and any more/i’ve been seen as geek mad topical bore’

    trust me i wouldn’t know how to ‘alter’ myself to better/more appealing.nope i wouldn’t have the energy to do so. sort of like i don’t have the enrgy to ‘better’ my life either….

    but i don’t want to pretend to be someone else.

    i wish
    “I could be proud of things I have done
    Pretend I dont have to try to be someone”

    but nah i’m not pretending i just coming across as the transparent or not loser that i am. ha ha….

    maybe everyone shouldn’t be themselves…..

    sorry i give up/i just gotta save some sanity….

    “i’m too tired/and i’m too old…”

  13. See, there is NOTHING I can do with you, you little iconoclast…

    You come up with a lot of extremely interesting insights for the blog. You’re a deep thinker, even though you generally toss it off with, “Oh, well. Not a big deal. That’s just me. Blah blah blah.”

    I don’t know how in the holy hell I’ll ever convince you of anything. But I’ll try. At least listen and take what I say into consideration, OK?

    Most people that are well adjusted emotionally have some self doubt at times. (I personally don’t have any insecurities regarding myself. I look in the mirror every day and I’m very happy with what I see. Plus I’m aware that I’m a good person with a certain amount of talent in some areas. So I’m fine. But I’m talking about most people.) Depending on what they’re going through, men and women can be rather self critical or skeptical of what they have accomplished.

    The thing that bothers me about your attitude about yourself, sweetie, is that it is entirely negative. You keep referring to yourself as “geek, loser etc. etc.” You clearly believe that, don’t you? Honey, this will NOT get you anywhere in life. It won’t get you (good) jobs or girls or anything else. If you perceive yourself as weird/a loser/geek, then I guarantee you everyone else will as well. So your life goes on this particular trajectory with no change – and it may not ever, you know.

    Even if you weren’t so dug in about this, people do give off particular vibes. There’s body language. There’s your manner of speaking. All of these are just tip offs as to how you really feel about yourself. glim, if that’s the way that you perceive yourself, no one is going to argue with you. They’ll feel that you know yourself far better than anyone else. If you think that you’re odd or a loser then they’ll treat you accordingly or avoid you. Then it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

    I hate to say this, but your attitude in situations like this is everything. There is no one on this earth that ever had a big success in life that possessed your attitude about themselves. The majority of people that were huge successes or did something groundbreaking (so that they were remembered over the centuries) had definite obstacles to face. (Either before or after.) It didn’t just fall from the sky.

    They had to work hard, persevere (sometimes through painful and drastic hardships) and have serious confidence to get what they wanted or to accomplish what was important to them.

    glim, I’m not a therapist. But I do like you and I am concerned about you and your future. You have some brilliant insights. You have an awesome sense of humour and you definitely have your own unique perspective on the artistic community and what’s going on in the world.

    All of that is very, very valuable. Losers don’t have those sorts of things going for them. Trust me.

    I don’t know what you look like but I doubt that that’s terrifically important. If you’ve ever read much on this site regarding looks/glamour (and I don’t think you give a damn about any of that anyway, right?) I have said – from time to time – that not everyone can BE beautiful in terms of Hollywood/top modelling agency standards, but everyone can LOOK beautiful. I really do believe that.

    So what I’m saying is: There is NOTHING holding you back. You clearly have an impressive intellect, glim. I’m glad that you want to be yourself. That’s good. Integrity is important. But I just don’t want this powerful negativity to impact your life just as negatively. I feel strongly that you have much more going for you than you’ll ever understand at this juncture.

    Honey, I have known some very wild women in my time and I have seen some of the guys they’ve been with. A lot of them couldn’t hold a candle to you. Now there were some real losers. What you don’t understand is that women that are out there sometimes aren’t terribly discriminating. But you’ve convinced yourself that that type of woman wouldn’t sleep with you. I doubt it, glim.

    I am not going to suggest that you talk to a professional because you might think that insulting. But every time I discuss things like this here you always tell me that I don’t know what I’m talking about. Shrug it off.

    But if I didn’t give a damn I would say nothing. Thousands of miles away commenting on my site I can’t do much that’s concrete to help you. But I do hope that you will at least consider the remarks that I’ve made to you today.

    Everyone that’s a decent human being deserves a happy, productive existence, glim. I don’t want your attitude about yourself to be the reason why good/interesting things don’t come your way or for you to be held back in any respect.

    I hope I’m sufficiently clear about all of that…

  14. glim, I own BEFORE THE DEVIL KNOWS YOU’RE DEAD and I think that the opening sex scene is hysterical. He’s checking himself out in the mirror every minute or so while he’s doing it. That tells you everything you need to know about PSH’s character right there.

    Have to tell the truth about this. I have always found PSH tremendously attractive. I can’t even tell you why. I just do. He’s a little heavier than normal in BTDKYD and I generally prefer him somewhat slimmed down.

    But I definitely do find him appealing. Hmmm…. He IS blonde.

    Haven’t seen Matador. But what Jeremy Irons movie? Damage, Dead Ringers or something else?

    That Last Tango scene isn’t such a big deal. I think Maria was nude but if I’m not mistaken Marlon had all his clothes on and you couldn’t see ANYTHING. I think.

    That’s one of the most ridiculous things about this immensely retarded film. So groundbreaking and balls to the wall and blah blah blah…You never GET A GOOD LOOK AT BRANDO. EVER.

    Not that I’d want to. He never did anything for me. I realize this was 1973 (a fairly sexist era – the women’s movement was just starting up in earnest) but it’s SO stupid. This was given an X rating back then and it had quite the notorious reputation for YEARS. Maria is blissfully naked ALL THE TIME. But you don’t see Brando. AT ALL.

    How’s that for liberated? What a crock of BS.

    So, I had heard about the butter scene. For years. Long before I saw this. If you’d never seen this or heard about it, I think it would genuinely give you pause. (Um, yeah…) Then I think it would take you a little while to realize that they were actually doing THAT. I mean, back then you didn’t see simulated anal sex in just every artistic picture coming down the pike.

    It is a bit creepy because I recall thinking when I watched it that it was completely spontaneous and she never had a chance to agree to that kind of activity. So the consensual thing was kind of hanging out there, as it were.

    Maybe that’s why she ended up killing him at the end…?

    Just a thought…

  15. You clearly believe that, donโ€™t you?

    sorry…but yes……

    Theyโ€™ll feel that you know yourself far better than anyone else.

    really i don’t feel i know myself at all/very little…..

    why don’t you turn me inside out/so we can really really see/what’s really me…

    serious confidence. i wish i could buy some off ebay. maybe then i could think of a bunch of stuff without getting headaches or becoming paralyzed. yeah…

    i’m also not good at faking confidence. uh guess my roots show too much….

    and i usually hate displays of what people consider confidence.

    normal people may not understand. but this is one best moments in rock music ever….

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/zcnkqk

    nope, not the song. this is the 20 plus seconds the band had to endure/at a live in studio/radio station thing/after doing their song/and they included it on their on cd. so funny. so they have a weird sense of humor….

    yeah m. i wish i could get to this level. these kids made no money really didn’t get good reviews/couldn’t become a hip/hype sensation. couldn’t get girls either i guess.(imagine being a rock band and not being able to get girls.ask the dj for details ha ha…)

    while the dj basically insults them/their slant on guitars. they just sit saying yeah etc. brilliant.

    i wish i could get that level/those kids knew that they have nothing still put forth all that effort.

    why doesn’t that count as confidence??? i guess most people wouldn’t see it that way. it probably proves their insane or losers. guess that why i liked them. ha ha…

    i’m sick of confident people coming across like scam artists and everyone eating it up. yay….

    i got open wounds to salt/i’ve got trains of thought to halt…..

    take my word/i got more soul/can’t hide my glow/ with tattered clothes/ i got a torn up suit/i got a hole in my boot…

  16. glimmer Says:

    i think the review was jeremy in damage and i love that you weren’t sure and mentioned two movies.

    so he’s played guys a that orgasm fast at least twice. hey that sounds like cool work if you can get it. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    i read marisa tomei said psh was a little bit uh….you know about doing the scene. she mentioned something about his not having the body/look of the ‘usual leading man’.

    wow if psh was nervous/self conscious about being the scene it sure didn’t show…

    hell ebert even called him an energetic lover (uh words similiar/whatever)

    i do like that scene m. too bad i missed it when i saw ‘before’ in the theatre. such things happen when it first time at a certain theatre and you miss getting off at the correct bus stop. and have a bit extra to get to the theatre and you just miss it. darn…

    sorry i do love al those anti… it’s so sexy’ sex scenes. sorry…

    uh and did you noticed when psh gabbed her waist it seemd like mt weighed 5 pounds ?????

    matador..i gonna have to work on it. just need to get the subs to stay.

    so brando was clothed. hell it’s almost as bad even now. you know the guys don’t show anywhere near as much as females. but there’s been some improvements….

    and hey at least she got to kill him. happy???? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  17. Well, I was genuinely trying to help you, glim boy. I care about your welfare.

    I really don’t know you. BUT you have contributed a lot to the blog and I have a potentially valuable film newsletter that’s sent to my site mailbox entirely because of you. So you’re a decent person and very kind. When you come over here, you bring a lot of interesting insight and excellent humour with you.

    I’ve said my piece. So I’m not going to keep hassling you. It’s your life. You have free will, you’re an adult and you can make your own decisions. I just didn’t want to see you missing out.

    Yeah, confidence (like many parts of life) can be a lot of accumulated BS. But what we choose to do about it is entirely up to us. Exactly like where we end up in life is a sum total of all of our choices throughout the years.

    I feel that you’re a valuable person and you have a lot to offer, my precious glim.

    You can consider what I told you or not. Strictly up to you.

    But I’m not upset at all. Just feel that you should be kinder and gentler to yourself.

    You’re a good person, glim. Much more than you know.

    That’s all….

  18. No, glim. It wasn’t that Jeremy came too quickly in both films. It’s just that Damage and Dead Ringers are both movies that are rather odd and out there in terms of sexuality. (Dead Ringers is good. But absolutely creepy.)

    So I felt that it was likely one or the other.

    In spite of the fact that I always found Jeremy incredibly attractive (skinny Brit…BINGO) I can’t remember any sex scenes that he was in. Not terribly well, anyway.

    Damage is such a farce. It’s so badly done on so many levels. It strives so hard to be something that it’s not. I do love JULIETTE BINOCHE as well. But it was SUCH A WASTE. Not sexy at all. I do remember him banging her head against the floor as they were doing it (he had his hands around her neck – they were on the carpet) and I didn’t know whether to laugh or vomit.

    It was RIDICULOUS. Then a big tragic thing happened at the end which seemed so utterly fake.

    But the moron (Jeremy’s character) had this beautiful, intelligent, classy wife (MIRANDA RICHARDSON) and he became obsessed with Juliette. Guess who Juliette is? She’s the woman his son’s going to marry.

    Not too swift, honey…

    MIRANDA got her first Oscar nomination for that…and I do adore her. Otherwise it was just pure and complete idiocy.

    Great cast. Too bad it was so blatantly stupid – and it could’ve been fantastic. Lots of potential that went nowhere.

    PSH has a tendency to be a little chunky. He was never intended to be a tall drink of water. The chunkiness doesn’t look bad on him at all. He doesn’t need to be buff. But he’s got to watch his weight. Hopefully he will.

    That opening sex scene in BTDKYD is hysterical. Energetic lover? Where did Roger get that from? PSH’s character is totally self absorbed. He’s giving it to her from behind (another way of isolation) and he’s not even looking at her. He’s gazing into the mirror.

    AT HIMSELF.

    He might as well have gotten himself off. She didn’t even have to be there. But it’s still really funny. I didn’t find it sexy. Just silly.

    Yeah, I’m a hot blooded heterosexual girl. Though women are lovely to look at, my interest in sexy movies or erotic scenes naturally centres around men. There aren’t many men who have the guts to show themselves in a film with a complete full frontal. Not that I mind. That’s a very personal choice.

    I always said that if I were to act in a film like that that I would NEVER do full on nudity. Just the length of my back, wear revealing clothing (like underwear for example). But that’s it.

    It’s not a moral thing for me. I have no inhibitions either. I’m just private…

    So if people want to be buck naked on film, I think that’s fantastic. But if they don’t, that’s great too. I totally respect people’s choices on the matter. I wouldn’t do it so I think everyone has the right to say no to that kind of thing. It’s up to them.

    As far as Maria killing Marlon at the end of Last Tango, I am certainly NOT in favour of women shooting men that they’ve slept with in real life.

    But the guy that he played was such a total zero and so completely unsympathetic. (In spite of his wife’s passing etc). So am I happy that she killed him?

    Uh, it works for me…

    Hah hah. Just kidding…

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