DEBRAHLEE LORENZANA: TOO DISTRACTING TO BE A BANKER




This article is authored by ELIZABETH DWORKIN at THE VILLAGE VOICE

I don’t often explicitly discuss personal concerns at the site. Except when I have something very specific to relate.

I do today.

As you can see from these pictures, DEBRAHLEE LORENZANA is a great looking woman who could certainly be perceived as a distraction to her male colleagues.

And your point is…?

I support her unequivocally. It’s easy for me to sympathize because I’ve gone through exactly the same thing.

I’m 5’9″, 140 pounds with long wavy blonde hair, a melodious low voice and legs up to my jawbones. I strongly resemble Catherine Deneuve and my body type is identical to Scarlett Johansson’s.

Guys have been pursuing me non stop since I was 14. Grown men began chasing me around (in droves) from that point on.

It doesn’t make any difference to me. Not just any man can make the queen of the angels sigh. A lot of them would never have a shot in hell on the best day of their lives.

Right now my dance card is full. I have no need for anything else. So life is blissful. I am very, very content.

Anyway…

My mama raised a lady. So I do know how to make an exceptional first impression. I’m elegant, refined and I know how to dress.

I’m also equally aware of how to present myself in a professional environment. I’ve been on lots of interviews so I know how these things shake out.

Despite my work ethic and ambition, I would never have succeeded in the corporate world. I’ve been around enough to know that for an indisputable fact.

Yeah, I did manage the office for a law firm when I was a 21 year old kid straight out of business school. That was an exception to a well worn rule. My boss never felt that being an attractive woman meant that you were an intellectual lightweight.

He thought I was a force of nature. He was well aware that that would not prevent me from getting the job done.

That was my good fortune. It’s rare that anyone takes you that seriously when you’re young.

After I left the firm (the company dissolved), I found out what’s really going on out there.

The only jobs that I was ever able to land were in creative sectors. It’s a minefield.

I would go to interviews and I would always play my natural glamour down and look professional. Buttoned up to the neck. Skirts and dresses so long that they either reached the calf or skimmed the ankle. Minimal makeup. Hair tied back. Very serious. No flirting.

It didn’t matter.

I’d walk through the door and men would immediately start getting fidgety. I’d catch them looking at my legs (or other areas) when they were supposed to be discussing business. I had a few situations at the interview stage where guys would actively discourage me and tell me the job wasn’t right for me.

Then they would call me later and ask me out. Not too swift. I wouldn’t have pissed on them if they were on fire.

I was trying to break into a field where the boss/owner often has their significant other acting as the office manager. Needless to say, once the spouses got a look at me, that sent the whole thing straight to hell.

I was told on several occasions that I was too good looking and that I would never fit in. Believe it or not. Those interviewers (one was a woman) thought that I would never be fulfilled in the corporate culture.

I don’t need anyone to feel sorry for me. I’m glamorous. I’ve been told that I give off a powerfully sensual vibe. You can attempt to eradicate it or tone it down in the name of professionalism.

But ultimately and inevitably, this is who I am. That’s just the way it is.

We all have our days in the sun. But preconceptions that start with your exterior do persist.

I wish Ms. Lorenzana the best of luck in her future endeavours.

Everything about DEBRAHLEE LORENZANA is hot.

Even her name sizzles.

At five foot six and 125 pounds, with soft eyes and flawless bronze skin, she is a head turning beauty.

In many ways, the story of her life has been about getting attention from men – both the wanted and the unwanted kind. But when she got fired last summer from her job as a banker at a Citibank branch in Midtown Manhattan – her bosses cited her work performance – she got even hotter. She sued Citigroup, claiming that she was fired solely because her bosses thought she was too hot.

This is the way DEBBIE LORENZANA tells it…

Her bosses told her they couldn’t concentrate on their work because her appearance was too distracting. They ordered her to stop wearing turtlenecks. She was also forbidden to wear pencil skirts, three inch heels or fitted business suits.

Ms. Lorenzana pointed out female colleagues whose clothing was far more revealing than hers: “They said their body shapes were different from mine and I drew too much attention,” she commented.

As her lawsuit puts it, her bosses told her that “as a result of the shape of her figure, such clothes were purportedly too distracting for her male colleagues and supervisors to bear.”

“Men are kind of drawn to her,” said Tanisha Ritter, a friend and former colleague who also works as a banker and praises Ms. Lorenzana’s work habits.

“I’ve seen men turn into complete idiots around her. But it’s not her fault that they act this way…and it shouldn’t be her problem.”

Because Citibank made Ms. Lorenzana sign an essential arbitration clause as a condition of her employment, the case will never end up before a jury or judge. An arbitrator will decide. Citibank officials won’t comment on the suit.

Her attorney, Jack Tuckner, who calls himself a sex positive women’s rights lawyer, is the first one to say his client is a babe. But so what? For him, it all boils down to self control.

“It’s like saying,” Mr. Tuckner argued, “that we can’t think any more ’cause our penises are standing up – and we can not think about you except in a sexual manner – and we can’t look at you without wanting to have sexual intercourse with you. And it’s up to you, gorgeous woman, to lessen your appeal so that we can focus!”

This isn’t your typical sexual harassment lawsuit, if there is such a thing. For one thing, such suits often claim that women are coerced into looking more sexy or are subjected to being pawed. Ms. Lorenzana claims that her bosses basically told her she was just too attractive. And when she raised hell and refused to do anything about it – as if there was anything she really could do about it – she lost her job.

DEBBIE LORENZANA – whose mother is Puerto Rican and father is Italian – came to New York from Puerto Rico 12 years ago. She was 21, pregnant and had a degree as an emergency medical technician from a technical college in Manatí, a small city on the northern coast.

The father didn’t want to have anything to do with her or the baby. So she moved back to the States, where she had lived in her mid teens (pinballing between relatives’ houses and group homes) and took care of her elderly grandparents in Connecticut. After her son was born, she moved to Queens to stay with a friend.

Then she got her first job in finance: working as a sales representative at the Municipal Credit Union in 2002. She moved to Jersey City and worked long hours. She was successful.

In April 2003, the Municipal Credit Union named her its sales rep of the month. On the other hand, she said, a manager once called her into his office to ask her opinion of a photograph.

The picture he called up on his computer was of his penis. She complained about the incident. In her June 2003 resignation letter – written just two months after she was honoured as a top employee – she wrote, “Due to the complaint I made regarding sexual harassment, my work environment has become hostile, painful and unbearable.”

She moved on to other jobs in the financial services industry. After a stint selling health insurance to immigrants at Metropolitan Hospital in Queens, the hospital cited her in November 2003 for “providing world class customer service” and for being the number one enroller in the office.

In August 2006, the district managers at Bank Of America gave her a CUSTOMER HIGHER STANDARDS AWARD on diploma paper, on which they wrote: “Debrahlee: You deserve to be recognized for going above and beyond.”

She said she loved to work and eventually was earning close to $70,000 a year.

She was always well dressed.

Ms. Lorenzana is, by her own admission, a shopaholic. She shops for her work wardrobe at ZARA. But when she has money she spends it on designer clothes.

She has five closets full of BURBERRY, HERMES, LOUIS VUITTON and ROBERTO CAVALLI. She said her love of fine clothes is a result of growing up poor. She recalled running a high school marathon barefoot because she couldn’t afford sneakers.

Ms. Lorenzana left the workplace to get married. But that relationship went sour after a brief time. In September 2008, she was ready to go back to work. It was the height of the Wall Street crisis but she lucked out. She got an interview with Citibank for a job at its recently opened branch in the Chrysler Building.

At the interview, she recalled, she wore a black ARMANI wrap dress and simple CHRISTIAN LOUBOUTIN pumps.

(The dress was form fitting and tight in the bust. She said that one size up would have been too big for her.)

She remembers that the branch manager Craig Fisher was polite, asking her about strategies for acquiring new business and whether she had other job offers. Since she all ready had an offer from Washington Mutual, Mr. Fisher proposed a salary of $70,000 with three weeks’ vacation. Her job title was business banker, providing services to small businesses.

There were three business bankers at the Chrysler Building branch; Ms. Lorenzana was the only woman.

When she started the job, she said that a colleague told her that the branch was “known for hiring pretty girls,” and that she knew Ms. Lorenzana was going to be chosen from the moment she came in for her interview.

“So here I am, thinking I got hired because of my capabilities and now you’re telling me it’s because of my physical appearance? Great.”

However, she liked the job, the pay and the prospects for advancement. For the first two months, she was hardly in the office – she was either out drumming up business or attending training sessions. But once she started spending more time in the office, things began to go downhill.

Interviews and her lawsuit, which was filed in November 2009, tell her story: Craig Fisher and another manager Peter Claibourne started making offhand comments about her appearance. She was told not to wear fitted business suits. She should wear makeup because she looked sickly without it.

(She had purposefully stopped wearing makeup in hopes of attracting less attention.)

Once, she remembered, she came in to work without having blow dried her hair – it is naturally curly – and Mr. Fisher told a female colleague to pass on a message that she shouldn’t come into work without straightening it beforehand.

Other problems became evident over time.

In order to provide services to a client, a banker needs to become certified to do things like open a checking account or take a loan application.

Ms. Lorenzana said Mr. Fisher didn’t send her to enough of the required training sessions, which meant she wasn’t authorized to do something as simple as order a debit card for a client and was forced to rely on her colleagues for favours.

“When I complained, Craig would say, ‘Just go ahead and bring in new business.’ So I went out every day and looked for business.”

But then, she said, when clients would come into the branch asking for her – or would fax papers to the branch with her name on them – Mr. Fisher would give those hard won accounts to male colleagues.

In late 2008, the two managers called her into Mr. Fisher’s office. She remembers that she was wearing a red camisole, beige pants and a navy suit jacket.

This is how she tells it…

“They said, ‘Deb, we need to talk to you about your work attire. . . .Your pants are too tight.’ I said, ‘I’m sorry, my pants are not too tight! If you want to talk about inappropriate clothes, go downstairs and look at some of the tellers!’

Citibank does have a dress code policy, which says clothing must not be provocative. But it does not go into specifics and managers have wide discretion.

But Ms. Lorenzana pointed out that, unlike her, some of the tellers dressed in miniskirts and low cut blouses. “And when they bend down anyone can see what God gave them!”

Then the managers gave her a list of clothing items she would not be allowed to wear: turtlenecks, pencil skirts and fitted suits. Three inch heels were also out.

“As a result of her tall stature, coupled with her curvaceous figure,” her suit says, Ms. Lorenzana was told “she should not wear classic high heeled business shoes, as this purportedly drew attention to her body in a manner that was upsetting to her easily distracted male managers.”

“I couldn’t believe what I was hearing,” Ms. Lorenzana remarked.

“I said, ‘You gotta be kidding me!’ I was like, ‘Too distracting? For who? For you? My clients don’t seem to have any problem.’

The managers instructed her to wear looser clothing. She refused.

“I don’t have the money to buy a new wardrobe,” she stated, referring to her work outfits. “I shop where everyone else shops – at Zara!”

Ms. Lorenzana recalls leaving the meeting feeling humiliated. Other female employees “were able to wear such clothing because they were short, overweight and they didn’t draw much attention,” she later wrote in a letter describing the meeting to Human Resources, “but since I was five foot six 125 pounds with a figure, it wasn’t appropriate.”

She was also furious.

“Are you saying that just because I look this way genetically, that this should be a curse for me?”

That same afternoon, she called Human Resources.

“I felt it was inappropriate for two male managers to pull me aside like that. I felt they were attacking me. In most places, if you are going to address a woman about anything that has to do with her personal appearance, you want to address it with a female employee there.”

In the weeks that followed, Ms. Lorenzana said that she called HR up to three or four times a day. An email finally brought some action: A human resources manager named Morgan Putman came to the branch in January and interviewed employees. Ms. Lorenzana said she had taken two pictures of female colleagues to show HR officials.

One was of a woman wearing a grayish – and very short – silk dress. The other was of a woman wearing leather boots with three inch spike heels.

But after the HR visit, things became markedly worse. Ms. Lorenzana said that her bosses made incessant comments about her clothes. She tried to dress down in ways that didn’t involve her wardrobe – pulling her hair back, coming to work some days without makeup, but it didn’t make a difference.

“I could have worn a paper bag and it would not have mattered. If it wasn’t my shirt, it was my pants. If it wasn’t my pants, it was my shoes. They picked on me every single day.”

Still, she continued to dress up for work – her brand of femininity is also cultural.

“Where I’m from,” she commented, switching into Spanish to explain it, “women dress up – like put on makeup and do their nails – to go to the supermarket. And I’m not talking trashy. I was raised very Latin, you know? We’re feminine. A woman in Puerto Rico takes care of herself. The Puerto Rican women here put down our flag.”

According to court documents and her letters to HR, Ms. Lorenzana continued to ask for more training sessions but didn’t get them. Meanwhile, clients whose business she had drummed up were being handed off to her colleagues.

An April 2009 quarterly report showed that she was behind the other business bankers in monthly sales credits. On June 24, she received a letter saying that she was being put on final notice – that she was bringing in too little business.

But there was something strange about the letter, which was signed by Craig Fisher and which put her on probation for six months. The letter said she had come in late on June 6 and 7. This struck her as odd. She looked at the dates. They were a Saturday and a Sunday – the branch is closed on the weekend.

In addition to raising the issue of her bosses’ unfairly giving her business to colleagues, she pointed out those incorrect dates to Human Resources.

One day in late spring 2009, Craig Fisher told her to move some files into storage in the basement from the second floor. The previous day, a male colleague had been given the same instructions and because there were a lot of heavy files, he came into work in flip flops and jeans.

So she brought in flip flops. But Mr. Fisher told her that she had to take off the flip flops and wear high heels while moving the heavy, paper filled boxes, her suit alleges.

The high heels incident infuriated her. She was getting worn down. On June 25, at 3:30 p.m., she sent a long winded email to two regional vice presidents whom she had never met, bypassing Morgan Putman at Human Resources.

It was the kind of email that could have used a proofreader, one a lawyer might advise a client not to send without some serious editing. (English is not her first language.) But she summed up her experiences with Fisher and Claibourne well and talked about “the cruelty of a hostile work environment,” where she was harassed “on a daily basis.”

She ended by writing that “Mr. Fisher stated he is good friends with lots of people in the organization giving me . . . reason to believe that nothing will happen to correct the situation going on at branch 357. I have requested for the second time a transfer. . . I came to Citibank with high expectations. Please I just want to work in a fair work environment where everyone is equal. Thank you in advance for your attention in this matter.”

The VPs never responded in writing, but she sent follow up emails in which she continued to report incidents at work. Less than a month after her June 25 email, she was transferred to a Citibank branch at Rockefeller Center. The way she looked or dressed didn’t draw any comments there, she said, but that branch didn’t need another business banker.

In mid July, she emailed Morgan Putman, thanking her for the transfer, but pointing out that she was working as a telemarketer, which wasn’t her job title.

In August, her manager at the Rockefeller Center branch – a woman – sat her down and fired her. The female manager mentioned the problems related to her clothing at the previous branch. She did not mention work performance, Ms. Lorenzana said.

The manager said she was sorry, but Ms. Lorenzana wasn’t fit for the culture of Citibank.

“It’s so tiring,” Ms. Lorenzana remarked.

“My entire life I’ve been dealing with this. ‘Cause people say, ‘Oh, you got a job because you look that way.’ So you gotta work four times harder to prove you are capable. To prove you didn’t get this because of the way you look. First, I’m a woman, then I’m an immigrant and I have my accent. At Citibank, when they were picking on me for every little thing, I couldn’t take it any more.”

After she was fired, she became depressed and began panicking about how she would afford her car payments and rent. She applied for unemployment. Last Christmas, she and her son skipped gift giving.

Meanwhile, she continues to receive unwanted attention. She says she gets hit on constantly and walks on the street as if she were wearing body armour: forward and straight, avoiding everyone’s gaze.

“If being less good looking means being happy and finding love and not being sexually harassed and having a job where no one bothers you and no one questions you because of your looks, then definitely I’d want that. I think of that every day.”

In preparation for the lawsuit, lawyer Jack Tuckner had a professional photographer shoot her in various work outfits in his office near Wall Street. There’s nothing wrong with the clothes – they’re proper business attire.

And there’s not a damn thing wrong with Ms. Lorenzana, who looks really, really good in them.

Obviously, that shouldn’t have anything to do with how she’s judged in the workplace. But things may not be so clear when the case goes into arbitration. The practice of making employees, as a condition of employment, opt out of their right to sue the company is a common corporate strategy.

Under the city’s Human Rights Law, she has to prove that it’s more likely than not that Citibank created a discriminatory and hostile work environment based on gender.

She must demonstrate that she was treated differently based on her sartorial choices as a female and that she was fired in close proximity to her complaints of being treated differently. Citibank also has a burden of proof: that it specifically did not create a hostile work environment based on her sex and that it fired her for legitimate, nondiscriminatory reasons.

Ms. Lorenzana can rely on her testimony, her letters to HR and the testimony of witnesses. Citibank can point to its disciplinary action – the final notice letter – but the letter punishes her for being late on days the bank wasn’t even open.

(That’s the only disciplinary paper trail THE VILLAGE VOICE is aware of in this case.)

Ms. Lorenzana could prevail on either or both of these issues: a hostile work environment or retaliation. Mr. Tuckner said that in his experience with gender discrimination cases, juries tend to be more sympathetic than arbitrators, if only because the typical arbitrator is a middle aged man.

But there’s always the possibility that he’ll be too distracted by Ms. Lorenzana to focus on the evidence…

7 Responses to “DEBRAHLEE LORENZANA: TOO DISTRACTING TO BE A BANKER”

  1. glimmer Says:

    Her bosses told her they couldn’t concentrate on their work because her appearance was too distracting.

    really this is the lamest crap ever. boo hoo.

    liars…

    well, ms. m, i liked this article. i always like when you take a more personal approach. don’t know if this makes it harder to write/or something you’re not as interested in doing. but i uh always enjoy it. 🙂

    and maybe they’ll make a movie about the debrahlee story and you could get the part… 😉

    really thanks. i’m very sympathetic to debrahlee’s story.

    and this really sucks…

    But then, she said, when clients would come into the branch asking for her – or would fax papers to the branch with her name on them – Mr. Fisher would give those hard won accounts to male colleagues.

    well there’s a lot in the story that sucks.

    but anyway…

  2. My darling glimby, thanks so much for that awesome eminently memorable response.

    You are indeed a treasure, my little southern gentleman.

    I’m thrilled that you liked the article. But then you’ve always had exceptionally progressive attitudes towards women. That’s only one of the many reasons why you and I will always be good friends.

    I’m also jazzed that you like the personal touch.

    Is it harder to write about myself and my own experiences than some other things?

    Straight up? It absolutely is.

    The main reason is that I have to adhere to a particular standard of truthfulness without going over the line. This is the internet, after all. There are many situations and circumstances that can be discussed. But I’m not going into pages of detail.

    There are some things that no one needs to know about. And then there are times when you can just skim the surface and the point that you’re attempting to make will be sufficient.

    If it has anything to do with my loved ones then I have to be exceptionally aware. I’ve always thought long and hard before I’ve published anything.

    However, as time has gone on, it’s become drastically important. The judgment call is mine and mine alone. I do the best I can.

    But everyone close to me knows that I can re edit to their satisfaction or permanently get rid of anything that could be a problem.

    It’s all a free flowing progression. I have to be ultrasensitive and extraordinarily vigilant. I all ready possess those qualities in spades. So it’s just about kicking it up a few notches and being aware of what’s out there.

    Having your own site is an awesome responsibility. I love the fact that I have my own place and that I’m free to say whatever I want.

    But I take nothing for granted. Not a single solitary thing.

    The most difficult aspect of this particular article is letting readers know that I’ve been through the same thing as Ms. Lorenzana.

    It was tricky. How do you make others understand that life is not a bowl of cherries for anyone? People could conceivably read my take (as well as hers) and say, “Boo fricking hoo. You’re sexy and gorgeous. Cry me a river.”

    But I made my case and talked about my life because I wanted everyone to know what’s going on out there. People do think if you look a certain way that your existence is charmed and you get everything handed to you.

    That’s not the way it is for anybody.

    We all have our problems. Just different ones.

    Some days it’s bright and sunny. Some days the heavens open up and you’re right in the middle of a torrential rainstorm. If not a hurricane.

    That’s when you have to get out the paddle and fight for everything you’ve got.

    I also thought it was important to make people understand something else. Some individuals are of the opinion that women have made it. All the glass ceilings have been shattered and females are completely equal in civilized societies.

    That would be fantastic if it were true. I wish fervently that it were.

    But here you have the case of a young woman who is intelligent, motivated and ambitious. She worked diligently for everything she got. Yes, she also happened to be sexy and exceptionally attractive.

    Her appearance (which she can not help BTW) has nothing whatsoever to do with her work. According to that VILLAGE VOICE article, she was given several citations and awards which attest to the fact that she was an exceptional employee.

    There are anti discrimination laws in place. There have been since the 80s, I believe. But companies know how to get around that.

    It is certainly not uncommon (sad to say) for this kind of heartless, sleazy and immoral nonsense to go on in the corporate world.

    THEY KNEW WHAT SHE LOOKED LIKE WHEN THEY HIRED HER.

    They used Ms. Lorenzana as a figurehead. I’m sure they knew that she was a personable, charming, charismatic individual who could probably bring a lot of business in. But when she started spending more time in the office, they began to harass her on a consistent basis.

    For what??? Was it because they couldn’t have personal relationships with her themselves? Or perhaps they just couldn’t deal with a beautiful sensual woman being an equal and having some power.

    The main impetus in putting that article up was so that everyone comprehends what’s happening out there. Things are not fine. Women are still getting the short end of the lollipop.

    Females are still being judged on how they look – especially in the workplace.

    The first wave of modern North American feminism dates back to the 60s. That’s half a century ago. Has anything changed?

    Plenty. But clearly not enough.

    Not enough to suit me at any rate.

    and maybe they’ll make a movie about the debrahlee story and you’ll get the part…

    You are too sweet, my darling. That’s one offer that I would gladly take up. Like a shot. I’d love to do that. Particularly if I had Ms. Lorenzana’s approval.

    She’d be a very interesting person to talk to. I’m willing to bet that we have a lot in common.

    I could certainly do that part justice. You’d better believe it.

    Thanks for all of this, glimster. There’s nobody out there like you, honey.

    No one…

  3. Although I take Ms. Lorenzana’s situation very seriously, that’s a tremendously funny link, glim.

    Thanks for the laugh, sugar plum…

  4. glimmer Says:

    ok. yeah i know you’ll hate this, m.

    but seeing how it’s going down and the embarrassment/lawsuits whatever…

    as uh interested as her male co workers were, do they wish they hired someone with debrahlee’s look/presence and didn’t have the skill for the job, but would be there a bit for them hormonal wise?

    i mean that way they would have still gotten into trouble but they would have at least have had sex with a female they claim is too distracting to work around.

    think they’d be any happier???

  5. I know, glimster.

    This story has just exploded. Everywhere. It’s all over the news. Everyone is talking about it.

    I actually saw DEBRAHLEE on JOY BEHAR’S show very early this morning. She was there with her lawyer. He’s a sharp guy that knows what’s going on.

    DEBRAHLEE is absolutely gorgeous. If anything, she’s even more striking than she is in those pictures. She seemed very intelligent and capable from my perspective as well.

    I sincerely hope that everything works out for her. This is a firestorm. It’s probably only going to get hotter before it cools down.

    Oh, baby, baby, baby

    *raises eyebrow*

    glim, you can’t ask me questions like that. God, what the hell am I gonna say???

    I’m very tired. So I’ll just cut to the chase.

    Pondering seriously about this situation, I actually feel that this had more to do with power than sex specifically. As in these men making this incredible looking woman say, “How high?” when they said, “Jump.”

    Bet they got a big kick out of that.

    They certainly put her through enough hell. Maybe that was better than sex. For them.

    If you’re smart, you won’t date (or have any sort of personal relationship) with anyone at work that has anything directly to do with your job. If they’re on another floor or in another section, fine. If they’re somehow connected to your workplace but they’re not actually on site, all the better.

    How do I know this? Let’s just say that I’d prefer not to go into detail.

    Relationships – rewarding, lovely and joyous as they are – can be fragile and very, very complicated. Throwing work into the middle of that mix is a very slippery slope.

    Like I said, my life is blissful right now. I’m tremendously contented. I have no need for anyone else.

    But if I’m basing it on the past…

    Plenty of men (maybe not the majority – but a sizable number) don’t really give a damn about sex anyway. It’s all talk. Just a lot of hot air.

    There are boys that are consumed with all of that. I’ve met a few. But I haven’t run into too many…and I’ve known lots of men.

    I dunno, glim. Did those men really want to be with DEBRAHLEE or would she be much less threatening as some kind of flamethrower fantasy that they could just push around and be horrible to?

    For some guys, I think fantasy is probably all they can handle.

    Thank God men aren’t all the same…

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